A tractor mower won't start if the blade lever/button is on, manual mowers need to be in Neutral gear, some mowers won't allow starting if the oil level is low or the hood is open.. And, additionally, you must always consider that the original RED positive cable.....might have been replaced with a BLACK cable. It is "teachable". ... LIGHT FUSE BLOWN? This cable delivers current to the starter when the solenoid is "activated", or, "engaged", by the solenoid control circuit. Shall I start a new thread? Leave all wires connected to the solenoid "posts",.... connected for the test. Fuse had blown. But was unsure about the large posts. The SMALL terminal is connected to a small wire coming from the ignition switch, IF there are two small posts, one comes from the ignition switch, the other is a ground. Assuming the starter is fine, the engine is getting spark since it DID start and run, so guessing the fuel supply or carburetor problem I had before is now back. Since it is grounded to frame? "OK, Walt first: the wire I was referring to is a grounding wire for the solenoid circuit", "there is no grounding terminal on this particular solenoid. But suppose it is protected from the elements somewhat there too. If that's the solenoid..........yes, it's possible that THAT solenoid had incurred a "short to ground" internally (inside case of solenoid). At any rate only replaced the fuse and turned the key again and I think I saw a flash from behind the key switch but might not have (inspection showed no sign of anything burnt at the connector THERE). It has had a bad case of "one thing after another" this summer so this might not be the end of it! Not quite the relic you have, but close...googled that Huskee model number and got exactly 2 results for it, one a 2008 forum listing and the other not a mower. Originally I thought it was the electric clutch. Starter switch left on for about an hour, mower off but headlites on. On my mower, as mentioned in my post to Walt, the black wire goes to the ignition switch and the blue one goes to the seat safety switch and elsewhere around the tractor. See, this is why we mechanic wannbes need you mower gurus! All models of electric mower need a constant connection to an electrical supply, making them better suited to small properties. This configuration is what you will find on just about every machine/vehicle of recent manufacture. A fuse is an electrical protective device that is used to cut power supply to electrical … Craftsman lawn tractor continues to blow fuse as soon as I replace one. As a follow up and a long shot, IF all else fails, I would disconnect that black wire from the solenoid mounting bolt and leave it off, not touching anything, and see what happens. So now I really have no idea which cables go on which solenoid post, although I DO have a schematic and drawing of the wiring for the tractor in the manual...should have looked at that for the re-installing old solenoid...duh...I am afraid I may have shorted out the ignition switch by hooking it up backwards or messed up the charging module or something when the fuse blew...now what. I keep blowing a 20 amp fuse on my L120 John Deere riding lawn mower. There are a number of reasons why the automotive industry (and boy is that a broad area) adopted the use of "electromagnetic switches" instead of manual switches. Push in a new fuse. Tape over the loose end of wire, or other method of keeping the wire end from shorting on the frame of tractor. Most work with only water. Just trying to describe its approximate position/perceived function so you know what I am referring to; I can always clarify if needed. The solenoid is nothing more than a "very heavy duty switch" that is operated by electricity instead of having a manual button or toggle for the machine operator (that's you) to push or throw. I noticed that it's only after I turn the pto on. The threaded post that the barrel trminal is pushed onto, is the solenoid control post. Thanks for your generous allotment of time to my long-winded posts. Tire Inflation Pressures - Riding Mower. Four-Stroke Engines Used on Other Equipment. These interlocks will only allow current to reach the solenoid if they are in the "Safe to start" position. I do not think the current combination of claiming the apparent zipper effect and that the tile installer should have called you when noticing it are enough to package together with a level of specificity and substance to strongly argue that the manufacturer, seller, or the installer is responsible. You may have been interpreting the fuse as being part of the "cranking circuit" only. So every time I turned the key to start mower it blew the fuse. How to Fix a Craftsman Riding Mower That Cranks Slow & Will Not Start My John Deere L110 Blows Fuses The mowing season has arrived, the grass has grown, so you climb on your trusty lawn … (well, I could, but I'd probably get kicked off the forum for consuming too much "band width". If you don’t have the coffee table picked out I would go with a dark chocolate color with straight edges, preferably something natural like maybe a very rustic table. A blown fuse or tripped breaker could be the simple explanation. That is how it was originally connected before I took the old solenoid off last year. I am not sure what the wire is, maybe part of the charging system since it goes into the engine near the carburetor, but there is a wire attached to the bottom of the body of the little metal box that covers the throttle-carb linkage on the back left side of the engine, that also had was also very loose; is that some sort of ground maybe? With no one sitting on the riding mower, the switch will be short circuit. And in most machines built in the last 40 years or so, the negative/black is the ground conductor. Based on your symptom and details you likely have a wire shorted to chassis ground or a shorted "after fire solenoid" or a shorted "clutch/brake switch" or "attachment clutch switch". Repeat your steps as before to replace the fuse and operate the ignition switch as if to start. So those wires grounded at the mounting bracket have nothing to do with the solenoid, then. 2) move ign. If you think I am chiding you (gender-ly)......no, you should hear me explaining things to "the new kids" at my job (well, maybe you shouldn't hear THAT). Will double check that. If fuse is still good, turn the ignition switch to the HEADLIGHT-ON/RUN position and leave the switch in that position for a period of 15 or 20 seconds. The info about the stator was just what I needed to know and after purchasing a new stator and installing it, my tractor will now turn over without blowing the fuse. Walt Conner, Dreading the postholiday chores? There are several possible explanations. At this point, it is unclear where you are on the spectrum so I think you need more objective information to back up your position. Don't expect the solenoid to operate during the test.Access to the solenoid on my Huskee is somewhat "difficult at best", but I find I can get a better view of it by going in from the right side floorboard/step area (front end of center console and backside of engine). A fuse may also blow as a result of a direct electrical short somewhere in the wiring harness or electrical system. I always say you can't have too much documentation! If the fuse remains "unblown" through this step of testing, turn the ignition switch to the START position. If you see that the lugs have become thin or brittle, replace the lug or the enire cable.........................................................***"But what would cause the fuse to blow after I switched solenoids, other than the possibility that it was a bad solenoid after all? First make sure the battery is fully charged. term?) I have found super cool cleaning products that are totally enviro-friendly (thus also non-toxic for yourself, kids, pets...). If a fuse repeatedly blows out, this is a sign of an electrical surge or short somewhere in the electrical system. Sandpaper, emery, wire brush, or a good scraping with an old knife or file will work to clean them up. It works! I will post back later. This is also how it is shown in the owner's manual electrical configuration diagrams.". I wouldn’t let it drop too far down so you don’t block the view of the TV. Cub Cadet LT045 rider. Economics and convenience are at the top of the list, with efficiency and durability coming in next.A thorough explanation of all that would not help in understanding the circuitry here, so I'll skip that.Anyhow, if your tractor continues to "blow" the fuse, check the wiring for the headlights as well. 1)Thanks for the safety info. BEFORE I go any further, let me state a general safety rule again. I did charge the battery prior to all of the latest stuff, when the NEW solenoid started giving me a click. I pulled the flywheel, and there, wedged in the windings was a bolt. Guess I had better stock up on fuses for the long haul, lol. IF the black cable is connected to the negative battery post at one end, and to the "vehicle ground" at the other end.........that is the only cable you need to remove from the battery in order to render the electrical system "inert" and safe to work on. You wouldn’t have to worry about people hitting their heads because, once again, the presumed coffee table would be there. But you must "cling to" every word of the description. heh. I hope it's ok to share this info here, b/c I just learned about Norwex and have the enthusiasm of the new convert. Hi I am facing electrical issues with Husqvarna RZ 4623 lawnmower. It is the Sears mower number and I don't do look ups. "***That is correct.....So long as the negative/black cable is in fact, the GROUND cable for the vehicle electrical system. "The ground wire is black and connects to the screw holding the solenoid bracket to the frame;". How many little post on the solenoid?. Nightfall, will change the solenoid sometime this weekend unless you have any other suggestions before I do that. That is exactly the explanation of the path of the current that I was unsure of. safety switch to/from the ignition switch (and I think into the connector between ig switch and PTO switch so part of the safety switch circuit? hmmm. Current to the headlights briefly then nothing. BUT....still seemed hard to turn over, so figured ok, maybe I drained the battery trying to crank the starter over and over (in short tries) and it is not getting enough juice. Ok, ummm, to pose a hypothetical...if you DID short to ground by accidentally touching the frame with the wrench when incorrectly unhooking the pos. Would a loose connection somewhere cause it to blow? As I prefaced a few details about things sometimes reaching "technical levels", technicalities lurk in many places. If the light fuse is blown, this symptom will show up. All starter solenoids have two large posts, side by side or on opposite sides of the solenoid and it makes absolutely no difference which large cable is connected to which post as it is simply a straight thru connection. The number you posted doesn't tell me what engine you have. So was probly the fuse blowing? Do you think I might have fried something else? Did all this with the OLD solenoid still in place...to see if any wiring/connection probs might have been to blame. I have a multimeter and tested the rectifier and it checks out good but I went ahead and just bought I new rectifier anyways, put that in and it still trips circuit breaker. Either check them with a continuity tester or replace them. I found myself not entirely sure which large cable went to which post but thought the small starter terminal was closest to the battery post so hooked it up that way...". Safety device that wo n't hurt to go at it, turned the key on without starting and. 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